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Technical Jargon: Windows and Failed Insulated Glass Seals

 

'Tis the season to start looking for "failed insulated glass seals."  

failed insulated glass seal window

Houses with the newer insulated windows are going to be susceptible to seal failure.  This will become more noticeable when you start having greater temperature differences between the inside and outside of the house.  The visual evidence will mostly be milky white staining or water drips, drips, or fogginess on the glass panes in windows or doors that cannot be cleaned off. The reason for this is that the staining or moisture is actually trapped between the inner and outer panes of glass.

failed insulated glass seals windowTo better understand why this is, let me explain.  In these newer windows and doors, the glass panels are actually a laminate of two pieces of glass (inner and outer panes) that are held together and separated by a gasketed band around the perimeter of the glass panel.  The resultant air space in between the glass is filled with a dry, inert gas such as argon.  The total effect here is a virtually fog-free window with a small amount of insulative value (understand that the insulation is in the trapped air-space, not in the two pieces of glass, which has no insulative value), that is required by residential and commercial building codes in many areas as a mandatory energy conservation measure.

The fogging and/or staining appears when the gasket around the perimeter fails, thereby allowing moisture laden air to replace the dry argon.  Once you have a sixeable temperature difference, such as hot inside and cold outside (typical winter) or hot outside and cold inside (typical summer).  The tricky thing with these systems is that you may have two windows with failed seals, each on opposite sides of the house, and only one may show signs of failure in the morning.  But, in the afternoon, they switch.  Also, just because you have one failed seal, does not mean they are all bad, and they don't all just fail at the same time.  This is why a home inspector will usually include language in the inspection report to the effect of:  "while only "x" number of windows were noted to have failed seal, there may be more present which were not readily apparent."

Questions about failed insulated glass seals? Leave them below in the comments and I'll get back to you.

Submitted by Paul Tooley on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 9:01am
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Comments

Like seal failure are not ‘common’ for your home.

Submitted by Simon (not verified) on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 10:18pm.
A responsible manufacturer will give you a warranty against seal failure.  After all, an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. Buying high quality windows from a quality manufacturer will help assure that ‘common’ problems, like seal failure are not ‘common’ for your home. If you are going to spend the money, take the time to do a little research beforehand, and spend wisely. upvc windows

The Complexities

Submitted by Christopher (not verified) on Mon, 08/09/2010 - 4:41am.
Recycled retailers also stock new items such as replacement sashes and seals. It is worth checking  your recycled shop first as they are often much cheaper and understand the complexities of older windows and homes in general. Screen Doors

Failed seals

Submitted by Paul (not verified) on Thu, 11/19/2009 - 10:27pm.
Glass Panels, I like the list.  thanks for providing it.  I was not able to find anything specifically for repairing failed seals on windows though.  While it is possible to re-build the windows, drying and evacuating the space between the windows, then refilling it with argon would be a chore.  In my opinion though, It is more financially reasonable to replace the affected panes.    I just searched for "repairing failed double glazed units" and found that repairing failed seals is pretty big business in the UK, but none of the companies would describe what they do, nor what they cost.  One site did state specifically "Many people think we have some magic tool that will dry the unit out – but frankly there is no realistic alternative but to replace the failed sealed units."  What it sounded like they were doing, was drilling through the existing seal and putting dessicant (a moisture absorbant) into the space between glass panes and just absorbing the condensation. My question to that system is what do you do when the absorbant cannot absorb anymore? 

Glass panels

Submitted by glass panels (not verified) on Thu, 11/19/2009 - 11:50am.
You can get them fixed just get the right materials to fix them. and yes it does effect the value of the window but if you fix it in the right manner with the right materials then you will put the value back into that window

failed seals

Submitted by Paul T (not verified) on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 11:35pm.

Hey Anonymous,

If you want to get back to clear windows, you will need to replace the affected sashes.  Depending on the age of the windows you may be able to have just the individual sash or sashes replaced.  I would suggest checking out a builder's supply and not one of the large "box" stores.  Places like Stock Bulding Supply or Builder's First Choice, would be a good starting point.

As for the insulative value, when the seal fails you will lose some of the insulation, but not all.  There is still the trapped air space between the panes. However there is now moisture content, which will affect some of the heat/cold transfer.

I have read a little about one company that claims to be able to repair the failed seals, but their method of repair includes installing some sort of venting in lieu of re-sealing the sash.

thanks for asking,

paul

I have several windows with

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 4:11pm.

I have several windows with failed seals.  Can they be fixed or do I have to replace the whole window?  Also, does the failed effect the insulative value of the window?

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