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What's wrong with this picture: Radon Vent

 

Radon System Vent

ANSWER: Improperly installed radon mitigation system vent.

This is a picture of the fan and exhaust vent for an active radon gas mitigation system. When a home is tested for radon and found to have a high level, this is the type of system usually installed to fix the problem and remove the radon gas.

The problem with this one is that it was not installed by a trained/certified/licensed company. This vent pipe is barely more than 3 feet above ground level. So the vented radon gas, which can be at a VERY high level, is easily re-entrained into the home through the lower openings such as windows, doors, and outlets.

This is easily fixed by having a qualified licensed radon mitigation contractor extend the vent pipe so it extends at least one foot above the roof line, allowing the radon gas coming out of that vent pipe to dissipate safely into the atmosphere. Luckily this is not a big expense...assuming the inside part of the installation is OK.

Submitted by Martin Smith on Fri, 01/07/2011 - 8:24am
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Comments

Radon Exhaust Vent

Submitted by William (not verified) on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 6:26pm.

I do believe there must be a way to direct the vent through the exterior rather than going through a window.  You most certainly want to keep the window available, especially if it's an egress window.

The gentleman that installed my system would probably have a good answer to your question.  Go to www.aamesradon.com and email or call.  I know Clarke quite well and I've seen his work many times.  He's NEHA certified and will be quite helpful.

Window/Plywood Exit

Submitted by Martin Smith on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 10:01am.

This would not be an acceptable option. I would highly recommend that you find a different mitigation specialist. Please make sure they are certified with PA DEP and that their license is current. I would also check to see if they are also members of AARST. Being an AARST member isn't required, but an individual taking this extra step demonstrates their professionalism and interest in keeping current with best practices in our industry.

Radon Exhaust Vent - window

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/15/2011 - 9:30am.

I am in the process of purchasing a stone ranch home in Allentown, PA.  It was built in 1957. The home inspection revealed high radon levels.  The remediation specialist intends to remove a basement window and run the exhaust through a piece of plywood inserted into the window opening.  I am concerned that the plywood is not a permanent solution.  It will not be as secure as a window, or as able to tolerate weather conditions as well as glass.  Are you able to offer any better solutions?

Outside of smoking, radon is

Submitted by plumbing (not verified) on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 7:15am.

Outside of smoking, radon is considered to be the leading cause of cancer. It's a carcinogen that most people find in their homes. In order to reduce this, you have to properly vent your home and minimize the radon levels.

Outside of smoking, radon is

Submitted by plumbing (not verified) on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 7:14am.

Outside of smoking, radon is considered to be the leading cause of cancer. It's a carcinogen that most people find in their homes. In order to reduce this, you have to properly vent your home and minimize the radon levels.

Radon Vent on Roof

Submitted by Martin Smith on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:02am.

Great question. It is generally accepted that any water in the pipe system, rain, snow, or condensation, should drain to the soil. Therefore, any horizontal runs of pipe should slope toward the soil to avoid the possibility of water collecting in the pipes. Also, there is usually an internal gutter system installed on the positive side of the fan that routes much of the moisture in the pipe around the fan. Sounds like you might not have the internal gutter system. You should consider having that installed when the fan is replaced.

Good discussion

Submitted by Warren Heating and Air (not verified) on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:16am.

Thanks for all the information and feedback through the comments, it's been really great to read this morning!

Blessings,

-The guys at Warren Heating and Air

www.warrenair.net

Radon Vent on Roof

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/21/2010 - 1:46pm.

With a radon vent pipe on the roof, as explained by Martin Smith, how do you prevent rain water and snow from running down the pipe and rusting the fan?    I have this configuration in my home and the fan in the attic looks like it is rusting and sound like it is failing.   I know there is water in the system before the seal on the fan was recently leaking.

The Definitive Cause?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/02/2010 - 9:58pm.
I'm suspect of how the EPA did their testing.  Perhaps they were assuming either an extremely low flow / high pressure situation or didn't take into account that once the fan has been continuously running the levels drop off to a tiny fraction of the level that would build up over hours/days in a closed off area.  Once this lower level exhaust mixes with the outside air it further dilutes, perhaps not to as many decimal places as the EPA may have consider but by their rating I should consider moving as even the ambient level at my home in Lake Tahoe is around 2 pCi/L. That said I can understand their nearly perfect spec (they have to be as broad as possible) but if I didn't have perfect routing solution or the money for one I would make sure the pipe is vented away from any windows and in an area where it would dissipate, then as with any mitigation, test & test again.  As far as this installation is concerned the biggest flaw I see it that the elbow is pointing along the house (to an opening window?).  Also 1-2" ...huh?  Perhaps they meant feet.  Unless the side of this house is significantly blocked by another house (one reason they have it venting upwards in the first place), a hillside, etc I wouldn't have any problem with this installation, but I'd test with any nearby windows open & then close them all and test again.  This place was high?  How was it after they update the vent pipe?  There are a lot of places mitigation can go wrong. I'd be surprised this was the problem with their setup, any confirmation on that? ... ie, they just changed the vent pipe and all was well?  The most important thing I see is to getting any reasonable mitigation in place, creating expensive "perfect" solutions out of range for many.  For many crawl space situations simply sealing up as many holes as possible in the floor and putting a foundation vent in to create a slight negative pressure takes care of 99% of the radon and can drop the levels well into the safe range, all for a few hundred dollars.  (I've seen several installations that have gone from  over 60 pCi/L to ambient levels with this method) What I'd sure like to see at least mandatory testing when someone sells a home in high radon areas... jeeze, how about just a disclaimer along side the lead paint one in the sellers disclosure form with a link to the EPA webpage?    

Radon Vent

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 11/16/2009 - 7:56am.

What Joe said...except, EPA no longer approves mitigation professionals or measurement professionals. So the recommendation would be for a NEHA or NRSB or state licensed/certified mitigation professional. (Some states have their own radon program with their own licensing/certification requirements)

What's wrong with this picture - radon vent

Submitted by Joe Farsetta (not verified) on Sun, 11/15/2009 - 1:44pm.

Well, for starters, the exhaust side of the fan needs to extend above the soffit of the house. I would also question why the fan is not protected from the elements. This just scratches the surface. If I were inspecting the dwelling depicted, and saw this obviously poor installation of the mitigation system, I would question the qualifications of the installer, and recommend evaluation of the system by an EPA approved mitigator.

What's Wrong With This Picture: Radon Vent

Submitted by Martin Smith on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 8:40am.

Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately that is not the case. The radon mitigation protocols published by the EPA were written after much research, testing, and tweaking. The protocol states that the discharge point of a radon mitigation vent pipe must be 12 inches above the roof line and must be 10 feet from any potential opening less than 2 feet below the discharge point. If 1-2 inch dissipation was true, the protocol would have turned out quite different. Also, if you consider pressure differences between the inside and outside of a home, the majority of the home is below the neutral pressure plane, so air is being sucked into the home from the soil and from the sides. This is especially true during the heating season when you have cold air outside and warmer air inside. For more information, please visit EPA's radon publication page at: www.epa.gov/radon/pubs

 

Exhaust Pipe

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 11/07/2009 - 8:54pm.

I thought the Radon gas rapidly dispates within 1-2 inches from discharge. Please tell me more.

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